tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post1768074977710514775..comments2024-03-25T01:43:33.094-05:00Comments on Save Vs. Dragon: Some good examples of bad type...New Big Dragonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02412016128904985180noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-69835027603478322322013-11-06T11:29:12.019-06:002013-11-06T11:29:12.019-06:00I hadn't. Hmm. I think the font looks good, bu...I hadn't. Hmm. I think the font looks good, but I need something a little more condensed where I'm using it. I think Heros works better. TG Adventor might work better in the headings, but I am reluctant to add a third font.<br /><br />Hmm. The other members of the TeX Gyre series look pretty good too. I quite like Heuristica, but I might see how this document looks with TG Schola, TG Termes, or TG Pagella for the body text.Keith Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08411665536982769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-26561010920158060952013-11-05T13:41:58.541-06:002013-11-05T13:41:58.541-06:00Have you tried TexGyre Adventor? It's based on...Have you tried TexGyre Adventor? It's based on Avante Garde, the font from the original run of D&D modules. I've been using it on a couple of things lately.New Big Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412016128904985180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-56847134867383408832013-11-05T13:28:28.889-06:002013-11-05T13:28:28.889-06:00I am open to changing it, however, if I find somet...I am open to changing it, however, if I find something that makes for a better match that also works well in the diagrams I'm working on.Keith Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08411665536982769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-71554600265924896292013-11-05T13:27:36.256-06:002013-11-05T13:27:36.256-06:00I ended up using TeX Gyre Heros for now. It's ...I ended up using TeX Gyre Heros for now. It's fairly clean, reasonable width (and I've got a condensed version if needed), and has crisp corners -- I'm not hugely fond of the rounded line ends of some of the other fonts, at least not how I'm using it.Keith Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08411665536982769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-50358193431720276152013-10-26T10:39:29.227-05:002013-10-26T10:39:29.227-05:00I've wanted to use Sabon before but I've b...I've wanted to use Sabon before but I've been unable to find a cleanly-licensed version, so I looked into ways to get around these legal limitations. The only path that seems somewhat legally defensible is to rasterize/outline the font in the document, converting it to a set of images rather than text. Unfortunately, this is largely unacceptable to customers due to the vastly increased size of such PDFs, plus you lose all of the hinting you get out of a properly-made font file. It all boils down to the problem that the PDF reader itself has to be able to read your file, and they're not really designed to specifically _not_ extract font information without licensing permission.<br /><br />I haven't found any other method that seems to both answer to the license and serve customer needs adequately. It's very frustrating to have all these fonts that are effectively unusable in PDF publishing, but I make do with Google Fonts, Adobe Typekit, and some unambiguously free fonts from dafont and the like.Sine Nominehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335794366582322514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-44348793109648894852013-10-26T08:39:55.559-05:002013-10-26T08:39:55.559-05:00@SN: That's one of those area where I know mos...@SN: That's one of those area where I know most of us fail. I've been trying to look into font obfuscation/mangling as a possible solution to this issue (for those who might not know what that is, the idea is that if a font is obfuscated/mangled and cannot be extracted from the PDF/ePUB, then it technically doesn't violate some licenses for font use/distribution since the font would be unable to be extracted from the document, and therefore "unusable" as a font in the published form, other than reading it in the context of the PDF/ePUB in which it is contained.) Unfortunately, I'm not as technically inclined as I am graphically, so the little bit of research I've done into the area has me going, "Huh?" Is this something you've looked into and have any thoughts about?New Big Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412016128904985180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-49890153953500024382013-10-26T01:17:25.602-05:002013-10-26T01:17:25.602-05:00One thing that's plagued me substantially with...One thing that's plagued me substantially with my typeface selection is the licensing. For a significant portion of Linotype's offerings it's essentially impossible to use them in commercial PDFs. Another vendor was cheerfully offering ebook rights at something like $200 per book, per font until howls of outrage knocked it down to $30 or something. I've ended up almost exclusively using fonts from Adobe's storefront because they clearly label those fonts that can be used for commercial PDFs and ebooks, and don't charge extra for the licensing.<br /><br />Just looking the for-pay examples you give, Eckmann Schrift's epub licensing is actually $58, Myfonts wants $40 to let you use Quentin in a single PDF, and Fontshop simply does not offer Thalia in an App+ license, which is the only license which allows commercial PDF use. At a small publisher level it's very unlikely that a publisher would actually get called on this, but it's very frustrating for someone who tries to stay within the law.Sine Nominehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335794366582322514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-30792632209464146302013-10-25T17:04:35.771-05:002013-10-25T17:04:35.771-05:00Thanks for the great reception of these posts!!! I...Thanks for the great reception of these posts!!! I'm working on a couple of new posts stemming from these, and hope to have them in shape by Monday/Tuesday. <br /><br />@KD: One of the posts I'm planning is going to touch on type combinations and my tips for effective ones. But in the meantime, I'm playing with something using Heuristica. I'll have to get back to you on that.New Big Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412016128904985180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-44995439435864388112013-10-25T14:45:05.808-05:002013-10-25T14:45:05.808-05:00Thanks, very interesting! I love reading about pub...Thanks, very interesting! I love reading about publishing topics from people who know what they're talking about!Gavin Normanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12362875699031245377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-62034292179964526402013-10-25T11:10:03.792-05:002013-10-25T11:10:03.792-05:00Heuristica feels very nice, I'd like to see ho...Heuristica feels very nice, I'd like to see how it would look in one of my larger documents. Can you recommend a sans serif font that complements it?Keith Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08411665536982769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-47231488781496545282013-10-25T07:31:41.612-05:002013-10-25T07:31:41.612-05:00Excellent post. I'm going to share it with th...Excellent post. I'm going to share it with the RPGZines community. Thanks for taking the time to write this post.Gothridge Manorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371740532802642972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8752950690535469488.post-50707200827660657822013-10-25T05:45:22.856-05:002013-10-25T05:45:22.856-05:00I've enjoyed these posts on fonts -- very educ...I've enjoyed these posts on fonts -- very educational!Chris C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08655640273250716377noreply@blogger.com